Page 1 of 3 - Shunned with NCR but they still dont attack me? [Non-game 1][6] The inmates were tasked with maintaining a railroad alongside the Long 15 under military supervision, keeping the vital link between the Boneyard and New Vegas alive. Fallout New Vegas community and everything related. I think you'd still be able to do the quests for them at the NCRCF, and the Vault 19 Powder Gangers aren't affected by your reputation with them. I did the same when I reached novac and got shunned and now everyone attacks me on sight. He is a mild-mannered ex-sheriff who will engage in conversation with the player character. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Can anyone help with Powder Gangers and NCR early on?". There will be a man sitting at one of the tables named Meyers, who can play a part in the My Kind of Town questline. Visitors centerNCR CF administrationCell block ACell block B Valve Corporation. Cell name New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. You can have minimum rep and some factions wont attack you provided you did a couple of good things for them (off the top of my head I think you can even be vilified and provided you didnt shoot anyone they'll just be really rude to you.) Completed the rest of the quest by wiping out, Completed the rest of the quest by wiping out Cottonwood Cove's Legion forces by dropping radioactive waste on the area (+12) (Wiping out all of the Legion forces manually, followed by dropping the radioactive waste, will not reward additional reputation. Disguises are only available for the five big factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, and Powder Gangers) and, as such, only mask the standing with those five factions. If one's reputation with the NCR is above neutral, he will reply that the Courier has done a great deal in a short time and advises them to ask around. Side with powder ganger for profit ?it's nope for me tho. If you managed to get yourself vilified, you out of luck. [Non-game 1][5] When the NCR occupied the Mojave, it was commandeered to house prisoners on a work-release program. [Non-game 1] The prisoner population dispersed, with some following Cooke into Vault 19, and others staying with Eddie as Powder Gangers, and established camps around the correction facility. Unresolved: Release in which this issue/RFE will be addressed. A locked cell contains his "stash," consisting of bottle caps in an ammo container. Some will make certain people hate you, and some will allow certain people to trust you. Also, once the reputation of 'Wild Child' is earned, there is no ability to change it at all. I've been able to pickpocket the key from the dude at the front gate of the prison (and enter Hidden) then go talk to the guy who would then go to Primm (forgot name) without having to fight the gang, but I did not shot any of them or fight them at Goodsprings, so default rep with them I guess, and no disguise. New vegas has two settings, rep and hostility. Local map They're hostile to the player for the most part, so they're just asking to get popped. They do shot you on sight because they are powder gangers. Krystal Wilson. Completing Ghost Town Gunfight should now only make you shunned by the Powder Gangers which is caused by completion of the quest and not the death of the Joe Cobb. Please present your passport. Convinced the Omerta Thugs to leave peacefully (+2). I recently started playing new vegas(my first fallout game) and I had no idea that karma gets you shunned so I just stole most things. Dynamite is only good with perk but for my, I prefer frag or plasma grenades. Restoring a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Veronica being recruited as a companion again. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. Everytime I've done this quest (quite a few times) I've always ended up "Vilified" with the Power Gangers, but in my current play through I've only become "Shunned." There is also a fridge, a Sunset Sarsaparilla vending machine, and a Nuka-Cola vending machine. A possible solution is to travel to the Mojave Outpost, put on non-faction clothing/armor, go to where Major Knight is located, save and then speak to Major Knight; select the Speech option asking if there is anything the player can do to help. You keep the Trudy, the bartender, and Doc Mitchell alive, so thats a plus. Telling Marjorie that the player "eat[s] people, too" (-1). The minimum reputation required for each range are: There is no way to remove reputation points from either scale, except for the NCR, Legion, and Freeside: Beyond that, any positive or negative reputation with a given faction cannot be removed, only offset by a larger Fame or Infamy value. My current playthrough has that bug with the Legion. Mayor is the only one who don't want to take part in any crime because he himself was a crime fighter, get put to the jail because he's too hardcore. Khans value strength, determination, and resilience. Contents 1 Background 2 Organization 3 Relations with the outside 4 Technology 5 Interactions with the player character 5.1 Quests 5.2 Effects of player's actions 6 Members 7 Notable quotes 8 Endings So releasing and turning the non-violent offenders into deputies under Meyers and supervision would have made more sense. ", Fast traveling to this location can result in a group of wild dogs spawning and attacking if the Courier does not have the. Even if the player character's reputation is neutral, if they have sided with the. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. You can have minimum rep and some factions wont attack you provided you did a couple of good things for them (off the top of my head I think you can even be vilified and provided you didnt shoot anyone they'll just be really rude to you.). I completed Run Goodsprings Run and it gave me a Shunned reputation with the NCR. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Bribe him with powder ganger disguise on you. Eddie holds the key to the Average locked room, which contains a substantial stash of ammunition and explosives. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. As if there's anything in this game that's not incomplete. Similarly, above the door of cell block A, a sign reads "cell block A J. You Have Been Warned. Fame/Infamy are tracked independently of each other. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. (Note: Script for Primm reputation exists within the game, but is not used.). This is where the NCR sent prisoners to "reform" through hard labor. Powder Gangers are members of the Powder Gangers living in the Mojave Wasteland in Fallout: New Vegas . Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and pass a skill check for each positive comment (+2 each). The gangers weren't even on my rep list despite being hated with goodsprings..not neutral not hated not likednothing. Working on the Chain Gang is a Powder Ganger-centric quest mod designed to begin in the early game, when the player is being introduced to the chain gang, and ends in the midgame. The NCR is an equal opportunities employer. This will knock your infamy up to a level where they won't be hostile to you yet. Wear the Powder Ganger armor. Fallout: New Vegas. Great for those who prefer to sling their dynamite than getting up close and personal. Compatibility Credits Even after siding with the NCR and retaking the prison, the alarm will continue to sound. You can always try to wear a PG outfit and sneak in that way to the prison and talk to the leader in the Admin building. All rights reserved. Fallout: New Vegas side quest Ghost Town Gunfight Powder Gangers attacking Goodsprings Location Goodsprings Given by Trudy Ringo Rewards 250 caps (100 at Goodsprings, 150 at the Crimson Caravan Company) 150 XP Goodsprings fame +12 Powder Gangers infamy +12 Factions Goodsprings Powder Gangers Related quests Run Goodsprings Run Technical Editor ID Lie to Heck Gunderson about who took Ted Gunderson when taking him back to Heck (+12). Reputation in Fallout: New Vegas is a measurement of how the different factions in the Mojave Wasteland perceive the player character. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). If loading a save is not an option, there are only 3 quests which let you gain Novac fame in order to get back to . What happened was is I sided with good springs at the beginning and killed all the other guys, then after being vilified I used console commands to set my rep with them to neutral and when that didn't work, idolized. Unlike other mods that add in new races or genders to the Powder Gangers, this mod comes with fully voiced dialogue for these Femgangers that not only reacts to nearby events occurring, such as a named Ganger dying or Quarry Junction being cleared out or Hidden Valley blowing up, but also sound right at home with a criminal. Powder Gangers are not good guys, you get good karma for killing them so why if you are playing a good character are you bothered that they don't like you? I like to do the Goodsprings side personally because Doc Mitchell is the main doctor I buy meds from. Arcade Gannon will refuse to be the player character's companion. First time through if you shot at me you died so obviously I wasnt friendly with the gangers. If the player character has a Liked reputation and helps out enough with the Boomers, they will be offered to raise the. kill sh t heads for early game karmaand no body can touch my sweet Sunny Trudy sandwich. Both types of reputation are tracked separately, the combination of which determines one's reputation with any given faction. However, any faction that was hostile towards the Courier will remain so, despite the change. Quests There is no real way to fix this on consoles, apart from either restarting or reloading an earlier save, confirmed to happen on both casual and hardcore play modes. The dialogue option to report dropping the radioactive waste will override the first and Astor will act as if the radioactive waste was dropped while the Legion was still present.). I do like the lore of the powder gangers a lot more than goodsprings. He sells chems and a few odds and ends. During the same scenario as above, it is confirmed that he will propose a truce, in which the player character stays away from the gang outposts and the gang leaves them alone. Refusing to participate in this quest, as long as it is done politely, will still earn Fame, albeit much less (+1). Alternatively, you could acquire an NCR uniform to disguise yourself and try if you can then talk to Dusty or even Andy about their quests. Or alienate them. Siding with the Powder Gangers in Goodsprings will get you Shunned by the NCR. Anyone know if this is supposed to happen or does it depend on how many Powder Gangers you yourself actually kill during the quest? Negative reputation yields the following: The nomadic army from the East is notoriously hard to impress, but incredibly easy to offend. Quests Support items like the NCR Emergency Radio will also become useless, and faction privileges like the McCarran monorail will be lost. This tip can be useful however if one needs to gain access to the NCR Ranger safe house or to use the monorail, or for additional help during the. By far the easiest way is to load an earlier save. How do you get the key to open a set of doors in sunset sarsaparilla headquarters? How do I get to the Boomers without being blown up? I recently started a new play through of Fallout New Vegas, and i wanted to do some of the powder gangers quests because i had never done them before. Exploring the Mojave: Southern New Vegas 44 Cottonwood Cove 45 Exploring the Mojave: Western New Vegas 46 Exploring the Mojave: From Westside to Jacobstown 47 Jacobstown 48 Finishing the Outskirts and Claiming the Remnants Power Armor 49 Freeside Old Mormon Fort 50 Atomic Wrangler 51 The Kings School of Impersonation 52 The New Vegas Strip How do I do that? For example, if killing a Powder Ganger while wearing a uniform of theirs, it might reset all faction reputations. Reputation in Fallout: New Vegas is a measurement of how the different factions in the Mojave Wasteland perceive the player character. If you help the Powder Gangers you get an easy source of explosives and reloading powder, a safe road to Primm, several easy starting missions to get you some caps, a discount in the Good Springs store, easy access to Meyers, etc. The combined effects of the two scales result in an overall reputation that is either positive, neutral, or negative. I can't remember if he can see through the disguise or if its just the door guard so you may need to talk to him quick before he becomes hostile. Doing Cooke's quests also nets fame, but no rank up. | Subscribe for Mod Showcases and New Release 4K Gaming || Fallout: New Vegas Mod - Powder Ganger Overhaul by Dragbody |https://www.gunetwork.org/t15181-fnvr. Wiping out every Powder Ganger in the facility may cause a prospector to appear here and remain indefinitely. The player character can also ignore Pearl's request. Offer additions to the Boomer school curriculum for the. They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. White Glove Society attire is special, since it masks reputations with six factions; the five mentioned above and the Society. No I did not know, I don't spend my time looking through ALL of the mods. I Fought the LawMy Kind of TownEddie's Emissary [Non-game 1] Blasting their way out of the cellblock, they quickly overwhelmed what little NCR personnel was present at the site, killed the warden, and established their own rule. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Shunned from Mojave Outpost and Vicki and Vance Casino in Primm". A state-of-the-art subreddit from Vault-Tec. [3] This led to deathclaws settling into the quarry and plaguing the northern reaches of Long 15, shutting down caravan traffic to New Vegas. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. A positive reputation may yield positive dialogue, discounts from vendors, and even free gifts from wandering citizens. Also, be aware that karma is largely irrelevant in New Vegas and that it is infamy with specific factions which gets you shunned by them. or having Idolized reputation), they will never become friendly to the Courier again. Best. Successfully assisted Hardin in replacing Elder McNamara as Elder of the Mojave Brotherhood of Steel with himself, and therefore did not assist McNamara in his own tasks (+4). In the table below, these are colored green, black, and red respectively. But if you help Good Springs you get a handful of caps and well nothing else except now you have to battle your way everywhere since the Powder Gangers hate you and for what? I have no idea if that works, though. Chet can actually store some good crafting parts, some rarer mods, and for some reason I often see him keeping around a bunch of Caravan cards. He helped the gangers take the town and "received rep with the gangers" which promptly disappeared. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt slightly before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+2). The community on the outskirts of the Strip has its own code, accepting to those that help, and shunning to those that do not. Using their outfit with bad reputation doesn't work, the unnamed Powder Gangers leaves you alone, but the named ones (Dawes, Eddy, etc) will still turn hostile. Posts: 3446. Valve Corporation. Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Boone to be recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. I don't think that "Shunned" is enough for them to attack on sight. Turn in all 3 supply caches and pass the Science check for the irradiated supplies (+2). Their biggest raid occurred on Sloan, where they stole an entire cache of dynamite used by the workers to mine Quarry Junction. Then complete quests and earn Fame which will increase from neutral and go up, but only so long as one is wearing that faction's armor. The following is based on Fallout: New Vegas cut content. Equip the armor of the faction the player character is trying to work with to reset reputation to neutral. This may only happen when wiping out the location without help from the NCR. Unlike factions, they cannot alter a town's reputation with faction armor. Seems like it would make more sense if it could have been negotiated with NCR to let Meyers be the sheriff then Meyers could deputize the other Neutral Powder gangers as his police force. 1. As for the merchants in Goodsprings, I guess if you're ok with killing a doctor and a bartender for a 50% discount regular merchant, then go ahead. Try it, its a broken quest btw even if you complete it and kill eddie at the last quest thingy "i fought the law" the quest will stay unresolved.. meyers will bug out and the radio message will say you failed :\. NCR hit squads will warn the player character to change their reputation with NCR within three days or they will come after them, trying to kill the player character. When I want to play with the Powder Gangers, I just skip the Good springs confrontation altogether. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Convince Heck Gunderson against cutting off the food supply to the Strip (+12). One of the boxes always produces a random skill magazine. The unlocked room next door has a copy of Lying, Congressional Style on the desk. Hostile is different. The benefits and drawbacks of any given reputation depend on the group itself. If you acquired a "shunned" reputation with the Powder Gangers by completing the Ghost Town Gunfight, you will still be able to talk to Eddie in order to receive this quest but assaulting anyone in the prison or gaining another level of infamy will turn the Powder Gangers hostile upon your entrance. NCR Correctional Facility [Non-game 1][7], Under the lead of Samuel Cooke, a small group of inmates gathered weapons and explosives before rebelling against the NCR staffing the facility. Blew up the monorail, but failed to frame a. Scout Primm and learn of the NCR's plans (+1). Still, the bug you're talking about does exist. As a Moments subpage, all spoilers are unmarked as per policy. and they're playing poker! Persuade the Great Khans to release the hostages and then tell the NCR to honor the agreement to escort them back to. I never talk to Trudy, and don't even enter the saloon. If anything this taught me to save more often. AnotherGuy18 6 yr. ago. At the beginning of the game, i sided with the Town Of Goodsprings against the powder gangers and everytime i try to go to the NCRCF i get shot at and i cant ally with them. Doctors But I do like betraying the PGs and assaulting the prison in that one quest though. A Powder Ganger wearing a guard uniform stands by the door. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt decently before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+4). If one follows the I Fought the Law questline, they are given the chance to storm the base with the NCR or help the Powder Gangers defend it against the NCR. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was not rebuilt before agreeing to stage the attack on. Only "Shunned" by Powder Gangers after Ghost Town Gunfight. Assignment is the defense of New Vegas. Mister Holdout will sell weapons to the player character at a discount price. One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both NCR and Legion soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of suffering and abandonment have united both in a combined hatred. Or would I just have to wait until later and take care of it by myself? Additionally, Powder Gangers outside of the NCR Correctional Facility and the Powder Ganger camp south would originally attack them even with a neutral reputation if the player character gets too close to one, but this has been corrected in the latest patch to the game. taking the prison for the NCR or holding the prison for the Powder Gangers. For specific low-level range values for various factions, see the talk page. Powder gangers attack me even though idolized at base. So I am now more or less around Novac, the NCR has been put to the task of keeping Primm in check and I have unfortunately missed out on going to the NCRCF before handling the Powder Gangers at Goodsprings. The prison has one main entrance, which is guarded by a Powder Ganger named Dawes. [Non-game 1][7][Non-game 2]. Unless this was patched in, then no. It is affected by positive and negative deeds that affect the faction in question, such as completing quests or killing members, respectively. Headwear is found in articles of matching armor where possible. Cookie Notice The ranges of reputation vary by faction. I thought being "shunned" toward a faction would result in them attacking me on site? However you will be offered truce once you will enter their camp unless your reputation with them is very bad in which case they will shoot you anyway. When I was just shunned second time they did not turn hostile and I could talk to Eddie. If you help the Powder Gangers you get an easy source of explosives and reloading powder, a safe road to Primm, several easy starting missions to get you some caps, a discount in the Good Springs store, easy access to Meyers, etc. I swore that this time around I wouldn't kill any of them, except in the Goodsprings thing, but I just can't help myself from killing every single one of them. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The elite society only accepts the finest candidates. They can kill him without incurring the wrath of the other gang members and enter the facility. Once the Boomers are turned hostile via combat (even after completing Volare! No idea if that was really intended, but it feels like a bug. Basically the same problem I had. If you don't kill any you don't get vilified. There are two things to keep track of: karma and reputation. This is because the Courier's reputation with them will drop to the lowest rank possible (like Idolized to Wild Child or Liked to Soft-Hearted Devil). They pray on caravans and travellers, including you. Blew up the monorail and succeeded in framing a scapegoat to secure Ronald Curtis' cover (+12). A positive reputation is required to receive the. The Version table provides details related to the release that this issue/RFE will be addressed. 1K. Wed May 02, 2012 6:08 pm. That would allow you to do the NCRCF quests more easily whichever way you want to proceed. But their mines are good tho. The Gangers are violent and hate the NCR with a passion. Privacy Policy. Speak to Julie again about donating a certain chem after at least nine doses have been donated, resulting in her mentioning that they now have a surplus of that chem, regardless of whether more is then given, as the dialogue itself is what triggers the Fame boost (+2, maximum of +6, once all three chems are in surplus). This location is ideal for player housing, particularly during. With the exception of the White Glove Society, Great Khans and Powder Gangers in Vault 19, all factions will attack the player with a negative reputation. Plenty of things to do in good ol' Novac to impress the locals. NCRCF (exterior)NCRPrisonAdministrationNCRPrisonBlockANCRPrisonBlockBNCRPrisonVisitorsCenter I did several quests with the gangers which all granted rep and then reset my rep to that same nonexistent statelost my access to powder and dynamite for not being a "good boy" despite not attacking any ganger..even those who shot at meThe longer I play this the more Im thinking the boys at Bethesda shoulda put ina few more hours. If Veronica had never been interacted with before becoming. Press J to jump to the feed. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. Performed surgery successfully by passing a 9, Reporting to Colonel Moore or Mr. House that the Omertas have been dealt with in, Speaking to Caesar after completing either, Caesar dies in any circumstance, except during his operation in. You get a lot more caps if doing the Goodsprings side, 100 caps initially, 150 when you meet Ringo at Crimson Caravan. Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Arcade to be recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. They tell me to get lost most of the time, but if being vilified by NCR meant attacked on sight, you pretty much would have to stay away from civilization altogether. There's absolutely no reason to be friendly with the Powder Gangers since their quests are pretty awful, and you don't get any decent swag. In cell block B just above the outside entrance, a sign reads "cell block K Z." Trudy is good for food on hardcore and she can have a decent amount of caps. Resolved: Release in which this issue/RFE has been resolved. All of these will be compatible with this mod. You can loot one from Joe Cobb. I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. Powder Ganger Rusher: An outfit fit for a psycho. The one exception is the Brotherhood of Steel: Only Mister Sandman works, as even silenced weapons and C-4 will cause the Brotherhood to turn hostile. You've actually got to betray them to get that outcome. If the player character fast-travels away from a location where/when they are normally expected to receive scripted Fame or Infamy before the notification pops up (e.g. This mod only alters a single entry, the Goodsprings Powder Ganger faction, and it only alters one setting of the entry. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Hey all, I'm no new player to fallout but I've had a problem crop up. There are six factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, Powder Gangers, and the White Glove Society) that have disguises which alter one's reputation among other factions. I've done the Powder Gangers quests, and quite frankly there just isn't any incentive to help them. I pretty much couldnt get in but i killed someone close to that area that had a key so i got in and killed every single thing in there. I know there are missions you can get from them at the NCRCF, but I get shot on site. It is also possible to position the player character on the cliff at the southeast side of the facility and perform a running jump over the fence to avoid the entrance fee. Fame is positive and Infamy is negative. 000E19D6 (exterior)0008D516 (admin)0008D0FA (cell block A)0008D48E (cell block B)0008D0D5 (visitors center) Through the back door of the visitor's center, the player character can enter the main prison yard. Weird. Powder gang merchants will sell to the player character with 1-to-1 exchange rate. ? Completing quests, helping people, and generally making oneself useful will result in accumulating positive reputation points. Well It ried that and it didn't work, screw it I'm just going to kill them all and see if I get the good ending anyway. you can beam yourself inside the prison by using an outhouse inside (from outside) that you can see from the south part of the prison. If you manage to have the Goodsprings NPCs deliver the killing blows on the Powder Gangers during the shootout then you'll only end up being Shunned. The Brotherhood of Steel will give the player character a key to the, They will replenish an ammunition crate next to, Lucius will teach the player character the special, The Legion will also provide various items within boxes outside of, Allows the player character to convince the mercenaries in, Allows the player character to convince each camp in, Required along with a Speech of 50 to trade with.

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