I had to let it go for 2 days to try to get it to thicken but it remained very thin but tasted good. Additionally, dont use any of the other grains. The only reason I am doing this is for the health benefits brought about by the 6475, so I add a couple crushed tablets with every subsequent batch just to make sure the 6475 strain is maintained. And still do 14 hours. L. reuteri doubles (1 microbe becomes 2, 2 becomes 4, 4 becomes 8, etc.) I put the liquid in my Instant Pot and set it on the Boil setting for Yogurt. Its pretty quick, within the hour, sometimes even before I finish eating it. We make Dr. William C. Davis Bio Gaia Lacto Bacillus Reuteri yogurt and yogurt with yogurt starter powder and inulin. Ive personally been making one or another of the program progurts for years now, and nothing has raised an eyebrow. . Ive been making this 1/2 gallon at a time. Dr Davis created his method using half and half milk, which is a full-fat milk commonly available in America (in the UK and Europe, its known as half cream). The method is below. Hillary Anderson wrote: You can set the temp and time for either 6 or 8 hrs.. Ive been adding one crushed tablet every 5th batch, but am not sure thats necessary. Does anyone know of the side effects with such a high amount of L. reuteri CFU in the yogurt ? No surprise, I guess, but theres not information at this link nowadays. It also yields a thicker, richer end-product. re: Ocetosin tends to naturally slow down as you grow old and I am sure there is some reason for this, after all the human body is build smart but boosting this with reuteri as you age, will it cause any damage to organs., In the modern settler populations, there are various reasons for oxytocin decline, and the majority are non-ancestral. thats been in the fridge for 8 hours. re: But it sound so beneficial that it makes me wonder what to do., I might suggest waiting a couple of weeks for further advice on non-dairy yogurts. (and in what month, to be delivered to what region). I bought inulin, hoping that would work., What was the problem with the potato starch? Dr.Davis keeps an eye on the matter, for example: Have We Discovered the Fountain of Youth? Ingredients: 1 quart of organic half-and-half (or cream, whole milk, canned coconut milk, goat's milk/cream, sheep's milk/cream) 2 tablespoons inulin or unmodified potato starch or other prebiotic (available on Amazon) 10 tablets of BioGaia Gastrus (available on Amazon), crushed Method: Enjoy a daily serving of probiotic-rich kefir, yogurt, or vinegar-free sauerkraut. Jo-Anne stated: One last question do you put the pot that you showed us in the picture of your yogurt in the stove? All declined an invitation to taste. Whether to consume the whey is your call. I sterilize my tools and follow the recipe to a T but its not working anymore for some reason. re: I would like to participate in this L.reuteri experiment, but strongly suspect dairy as fuel for an auto-immune response., Dairy reactions broadly fall into several categories: lactose: largely metabolized whey: largely fractionates and could be discarded casein beta A1: use bovine A2 or non-bovine milk hormones: seek non-medicated herd, but we are talking about nursing female animals, after all, so theres a limit to what can be done about that ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details). Well, they cant know that for humans, because the product hasnt been around that long. I tried to make a quart following directions on this site and after 24 hours it separated into a LOT of whey with a little not-great-looking yogurt on top. I follow the directions explicitly and get a yogurt (not one that stands up like butter as doc talks about), but how do we know it is reuteri yogurt? I started a half-gallon batch of the Gastrus yogurt last night. Wont buy UHT anything. I poured the slurry into the rest of the liquid, measured the temp, and it had gone down to about 90, so I put it on the Instant Pot yogurt Boil setting again until the temp raised up to 110. re: I have since read the Wheat Belly book, Was that the original 2011 book, or the 2019 Revised & Expanded? I also use 2 tbsp. What I woke up to this morning was a mush that was covered in a yellow top layer, with more solid-ish substance in the middle but very, very runny and watery around the sides. I plan to try it again, but havent settled on the next recipe. Did you happen to run a water-only test batch and check the actual temp with a probe thermometer? The expiry date on commercial yogurts is typically a month (but thats unopened). He is Chief Medical Officer and co-founder of Realize Therapeutics Corp. that is developing innovative solutions for the disrupted human microbiome and author of the book Super Gut. I want to use it because of the benefits associated with it but I am not sure if I should. What am I doing wrong? This implies 194mg oil per portion, but again, likely a whole lot less. The effects are sustained across yogurt generations, with no added Gastrus. Thanks for the report, and thanks also for bringing up, re: but a blood test showed my red blood cells a bit out of whack. Companies like BioGaia will perform clinical trials to make sure the CFU they are recommending are safe and does not cause any side effects down the line ( say 10 or 15 years later). To eat Dr. Davis' way, start by avoiding wheat and processed sweeteners or starch. In Dr. Davis recipe there are three ingredients, prebiotic fiber starter tabs or 2 tablespoons of yogurt whey from previous batch in a quart of half-and-half or coconut milk. (If in doubt, just let it ferment a few more hours.) When you make a half gallon at a time do you add more than 10 probiotics? Dee wrote: My yogurt maker instructions say 8-10 hours is good, with 12 hours being the most you would need.. We ended up abandoning the not-so-smart-pot we originally bought for making yogurt, because the ygrt temp was too high, too unstable, and had hot spots near the heating elements (which is a real problem in cold-start). Things have been going very well and I appreciate all I have learned so far! re: Do you need to separate with a cheese cloth or coffee filter?. Idont know how soon well know something. http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh253/Gyrobob_theOriginal/Healthy%20Stuff/yogurt%20on%20red%20plate%2001a_zpsnoe8ktvj.jpg. Ive been using it. re: Is it possible to be allergic to yogurt but not other dairy?, I doubt anyone can guess usefully on that without more info. Starting from tablets also has the challenge that its actually not all that many CFUs. If it takes 10tabs for batch#1, and we use a modest saved-off portion as starter for all subsequent batches, perhaps adding 1tab every 5thbatch, we might get a years worth of yogurt for that$30. The trick is to wait long enough for nearly all of the simple sugars to be fermented, and much of the prebiotic substrate, but not to wait so long that the culture is largely dead (due to starvation by substrate exhaustion), and definitely not so long that native environmental microbes foul the product. The method is below. Can we improve on taste/texture/bacterial counts by altering fermentation temperature, choice of prebiotic, or other conditions?. And what was the temp when the L.r. The resulting product has a consistency somewhere between whipped cream and whipped butter. I vaguely recall Dr Davis addressing breast cancer & the yogurt. Do begin by making a slurry of a couple tablespoons of yogurt from a prior batch or other source of bacteria (e.g, crushed Gastrus tablets, contents of one Osfortis capsule), a couple tablespoons of half-and-half or other liquid, 1-2 tablespoons prebiotic fiber; mix well. But is that the ideal dose? ________ Blog Associate (click for details). An investigation has been opened on gaining insight on these questions. and if so, what was the temp when the culture was added? Some people have re-seeded their yogurt by adding a few more crushed tablets of probiotic after several rounds of yogurt-making. Yes, Im right (in this case, at least) because all I am doing is relaying one of the basic fundamentals of Wheat Belly. If there are already discussion on this topic please share Dr Davis views, Nasser Siddiqui wrote: Does anyone know of the side effects with such a high amount of L. reuteri CFU in the yogurt?. Add the inulin powderto the small bowl of milk andmix to form a slurry. Does your NGNS program include any particular strategy for gut flora cultivation (target daily prebiotic fiber intake, periodic probiotics)? I love this stuff. As we always do, the, Half and half isnt available in Australia, so, in our, If store-bought, half and half milk is available in your area, we recommend you follow Dr Davis. The CEC recipe is going to make a yogurt, and not a progurt, so to speak. There was a lot of good information in it but the focus was too much on SIBO and SIFO, and that wasn't clear until I started to red it. ________ Blog Associate (click for details), Can I use only cream or has to be half and half? Dr.Davis has suggested that consumption in late stage pregnancy might not be wise. ________ Blog Associate (click for details). It may be a while before we have a predictable picture on that. I recall that Dr. Mercola had this done with some of his sauerkraut and the lab found that it contained 10 trillion CFUs per 4-6 ounces (if memory serves correctly). What brand and model? Wheat Belly / Undoctored covers a lot more than NGNS (or NSNG, which seems to be the more common abbreviation, and is strongly identified with Vinnie Tortorich). Do you stir it in, or pour it all off?. Just move the knob to some position that holds 110F and put a mark there. And yes, I take a long time to make sure all the Inulin/Gastrus is mixed thoroughly. But it sound so beneficial that it makes me wonder what to do. Very odd. Is it normal to have a YELLOW top layer? Its also not fully clear, in the case of this yogurt, whether the benefits seen are primarily due to CFU amplification, exogenous metabolite generation, or some combination thereof; and then, what an ideal portion size is. David wrote: See figure S7 of that research. Perhaps your mom lost this microbe and was thereby unable to provide it to you via passage through the birth canal and/or breastfeeding, or perhaps you were delivered by C-section and bottle-fed with little opportunity to obtain it. The low temp just slows growth (but invites contamination). Thanks for your wonderful help. The end-result should be thick and delicious, better than store-bought yogurt. Although this could indicate some problem with the yogurt, it can also be a sign of dysbiosis. ________ Blog Associate (click for details). Next time I might try using 1 tablespoon of glucose and 1 tablespoon of GOS (Klaire Labs Galactomune). Apparently there are several variations on how to make this yogurt. . Allowing it to cool in the cooker, or even just in air, might provide an opportunity for stray microbes to invade. Valid question, but to set expectations, I doubt it. So I poured it off into a couple of ice cube trays, froze it, and plan to use it as starter for some coconut milk yogurt experiments. This person is encountering the same problem: https://i.imgur.com/rwxcnx8.png. The key is to not let the mixture vary a lot, especially being careful to not exceed 110 by more than a couple/few degrees. Kinda cheesy tasting. Because the process of heating made such a vast improvement, we wondered if cream was required at all? Would appreciate help, Hillary Anderson wrote: Kinetic yogurt maker. Dr. William Davis (IG: @drdavisinfinitehealth) is a renowned preventive cardiologist and author of the groundbreaking #1 New York Times bestseller Wheat Belly.He's also written three other New York Times bestsellers and several other books including Undoctored, which is the book we discussed the first time he was on the show.. Today we're chatting about Dr. Davis' latest book, Super Gut . It is based on the Docs comments, tweaked a bit for what works best for my setup. Not sure if theres anything in itnothing on the label. The jar on the right was not heated - the end product curdled, expanded in the jarand producedan unusual amount of whey separation at the bottom. No one really wants to eat thin and separated yogurt, do they? Do cover your yogurt lightly during fermentation to minimize fungal contamination, e.g., plastic wrap or a loosely-fitting lid. ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details). Hair and skin effects are reported anecdotally. Such a response is a presumptive test for SIBO: The Prebiotic Fiber Test An adverse response says almost nothing about any given prebiotic fiber. Having read things that suggested that a full boil cycle might not be necessary, I allowed it to cool down to 110, removed about a quarter cup of the liquid, and mixed it into a slurry with the inulin and powdered tablets. The lack of CFU info in particular doesnt allow me to even guess on the likelihood of first batch syndrome. Use any source of heat that emits 6,000 joules of energy per minute. I am following the Listen to Your Gut protocol and it warns not to consume prebiotic fiber if you have intestinal issues like mine. Ive made this with coconut mild (full fat in the can). One last question do you put the pot that you showed us in the picture of your yogurt in the stove? Thanks, Ken wrote: This method seems to skip the normal yogurt making step of heating the base (mile, cream, half and half) to 185F.. It averages 10-12% fat, which is more than regular milk but less than regular cream (and it cant be whipped). You might be the first person to ask on any of the blogs, or in the subscription forum. I don't know what accomplished what. Potato starch was terrible. If we lump the two L.r. The growth curve of L.reut vs. temp, like most probiotic bacteria, is a shape. Here is some of it sliced on a plate just to illustrate the consistency. We empathise with your failed attempts because weve had plenty along the way too. 1. The yogurt is thick, delicious, and contains a marked increase in bacterial counts, though I have not yet performed a formal count. In general, the opposite would be expected, but thats in the context of a complete Undoctored or 2014+ Wheat Belly diet and lifestyle. I added 2 tablespoons of inulin and 1 tsp of XOS, but then I decided on a whim to add a tablespoon of dextrose (glucose). Please understand, at the end of the day, the L reuteri probiotic DOES NOT make yogurt, traditional yogurt that is, you can only try to make a yogurt like product. Debbie Hollish wrote: Is the prebiotic fiber consumed by the probiotic bacteria?. Can this pot be set to more than 8 hours? Any unresolved dysbiosis might complicate guesses here, too. Do this by boiling a kettle and carefully pouring the hot water over the equipment. Many commercial products arent, because terminating the growth extends shelf life and avoids refrigeration. Ive tried it once, and considered the result a fail, possibly due to either/both of: 1. per day. re: My question is, what does this mean and is it good or bad?, Insufficient data so far, and I havent studied lymphocytes at all (its not a marker we routinely track in the program). Ive found that with full fat cream and 1/2 & 1/2 I have successfully made yogurt. EVER. While it is still warm or can it be done anytime.. Do not submerge equipmentin boilingwater. I have read that resistant starches are where when consumed the oats behave as fiber and not a carbohydrate. . It did not say in the recipe to add sugar. Commercial yogurts are usually loaded with residual sugars (not just lactose), and may or may not have live cultures by the time you consume them. Today's wheat is different from the wheat of 1960, thanks to extensive genetic manipulations introduced to increase yield-per-acre. Consume one-half cup per [] By the way, Ive written a new book about the intestinal microbiome that goes far beyond any other book before it, packed with prescriptive strategies to achieve all sorts of health effects. Thanks so much for your insight, Val, Valiegirl wrote: I follow the directions explicitly and get a yogurt (not one that stands up like butter as doc talks about), but how do we know it is reuteri yogurt?. re: I dissolved the Gaia tabs and sugar in the goat milk after warmed to 110.. Maybe I just need to regroup and purchase the tablets. This time, I started over with 10 Bio Gaia tablets, used organic half and Inulin. Their avenin protein is an analog of wheat gliadin. It says a lot, however, about the microbes you harbor. A portion of your first jar of L. reuteri yogurt the mother batch - can then be used to re-inoculate your next jar of L.reuteri yogurt. Even though you may have been minding the temp, the bottom of that pot may have gotten hot enough to impair the culture. In addition to this, the little bit of evaporation and concentration that occurs during the extended heating helps to improve the texture. Should I try 1 qt whole milk + cup HWC + cup starter from previous batch + 1 Tbsp Inulin + 1 tab Gastrus? That 110F might have caused some die-off. Keep in mind that the point of the recipes is the CFUs, and not yogurt perse. Turn off the oven; repeat every 4-6 hoursnot precise, but it works fine when using dairy for fermentation. Its really worth knowing how it behaves. Any less than that and it is not thick enough. All I get is a liquid. As you can see from that article, my personal process varies a bit. Frozen, sauces, any and all combinations, in any recipes, all brands. Dr Davis who first came up with the idea of L Reuteri yogurt, himself has changed his recipe a number of times to try to create a more consistent outcome. From our feedback, this method produces reliable results. I dont know what effect that would have, if any. 1 quart half-and-half. First batch was thin but I consumed it just fine usually a few tablespoons in the morning. re: The top of the yogurt grew a pink bacteria and smelled.. ________ Blog Associate (click for details). We have extra Gastrus standing by, just in case. Half and half is a blend ofequal parts whole milk and light cream. Then put the goat milk mixture in yogurt jars into yogurt maker for 8 hrs. I do eat sauerkraut and pickles with no reactions, love those. Didnt get a clear look during the machine cycle as the outside cover was pretty heavy with condensation. ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details). Dr. Davis: It could be something as common as gas, excessive gas, bloating, irritable bowel syndrome. Defiant Health Radio with Dr. William Davis William Davis, MD Health & Fitness 4.9 48 Ratings . If my statement is correct.. which I am not sure if it is.. then isnt this a man made product from a lab and not the actual bacteria as it would occur in nature? Take care removing it and allow the water to drip into the water bath, instead of your bench.14. ________ Blog Associate (click for details). I use 12-14 hours at a very steady 100F to make a firm and very tasty yogurt using 8 crushed tablet in a 1/2 gallon of whole milk plus 1/2 cup of HWC. Or they dont understand what we are trying to achieve here, even believing that the benefits we seek can be achieved with conventional yogurtno, not even close. What culture? Despite the uncertainties, I am witnessing some very dramatic changes in the people following this idea. Is there reduction in bacterial counts or contamination by air organisms as you make yogurt from prior batches? ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details), In the particular case of the two strains of Lactobacillus reuteri in Biogaia Gastrus, it appears that they do not colonize the human gut on an extended basis. Switch the yogurt maker off and remove the yogurt jar. How long was the ferment, and for extra credit, what temperature? Im really pleased with Chobani for putting the price up as it forced me to make a better product here at home. That wouldnt be my presumptive explanation here. It would appear as though other substrates, such as glucose, galactooligosaccharides (GOS), and others would be better choices than inulin or FOS. I whisk slowly to make a slurry before adding the rest of the liquid. I used Meyenburg goat milk from grocery. The top of the yogurt grew a pink bacteria and smelled. This discovery is quite new.. Some people even heat their materials, e.g., in the oven, to kill any contaminants. re: Does the 2 tbsp you reserve for future batches get refrigerated?, Absolutely. This is just based on actual results from people trying this, and reporting on both blogs and in the subscription forum. ________ Blog Associate (click for details). I am going to attempt making the yogurt today, I want to use my stove light the way you do it. That (better) would depend on the objectives. Is that the goal? ________ Blog Associate (click my user name for details). Ocetosin tends to naturally slow down as you grow old and I am sure there is some reason for this, after all the human body is build smart but boosting this with reuteri as you age, will it cause any damage to organs. If you give it a try, be sure to come back and report your experience. It lasted over 10 days with just my ex-girlfriend and me eating it. I only let it go 1 day and the taste was actually stronger although it was still rather thin. The non-microbial ingredients in the tablets are irrelevant after the first batch of yogurt. Jan 22, 2022 - If you wish to avoid dairy products yet obtain all the magnificent benefits of our L reuteri yogurt, here is how to make the yogurt with coconut milk. Has anyone made an attempt using a non-dairy option like coconut milk that would care to share their experience? The thickness of this yogurt is evidence enough. A100Wequivalent LED bulb wont do, at all. re: I dont understand the 24-36 hours mentioned here.. Can I get an unflavored tablet/capsule? Since reading about the wonders of homemade yogurt on this site, I have been doing a lot of it at home. -Allan, THats amazing! Dr Daviss recommends L. reuteri yogurt ferment for 30 to 36 hours. I wonder if this is making me constipated. After 24 hours the timer will go off.13. It does not produce lumpy yogurt.

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