I believe that Loki will find and rescue Keller because: 1. There, Holly does what crazy-psycho-child-snatchers do. And Loki literally arresting people with the intent of sending them to prison. Holly Deane-Johns, 51, was subjected to the awful living conditions while serving time at Lardyao Women's Correctional Institution. Be really hard to find. But they were previously a very religious couple and perhaps some of that still lingered as they indulged in ritual before they killed each of their victims. Alex suffered so hes kind of relishing in causing someone else to hurt. He was parked outside of his old house in the camper when the girls came by and got in the camper with him. But I can see that the parents were in so much shock that they wouldnt remember what the girls were wearing when they were taken. In 2012, CSP-SAC was the first institution in California to achieve American Correctional Association accreditation with 98.6 percent score. he was there he visited Hollys home before he realized she was the kidnapper he said he was there to apologize for scaring off Alex and he came in and they talked but he left when he saw the paper saying that Bob killer himself. Unfortunately, Loki doesnt know that. The album finishes with the very first line from the first song: So I was takin a walk the other day Its a line that begins a situation where Kendrick gets shot and killed. Theyre kind of like ghost characters, director Denis Villeneuve said of the recurring motif of trees in the film; as we said earlier, like silent witnesses to the various violent crimes in the movie. Yet he still lives with Holly. Cornton Vale I believe. I think that Jackman (whom I like) was awful, not believable; art of this may be due to the accent, as the Aussie tried to sound like a Joe Sixpack American. I stumbled upon this essay and now cant wait to watch again. I guess it was made to distract/confuse the viewers. Holly Jones is the main antagonist of the 2013 thriller film Prisoners . But after testing the film with the ending it has now, everyone decided that was definitely the way to go. Ten-year-old Holly Jones disappears after walking her friend home in her Toronto neighbourhood. Yeah, I think I need to amend it a bit to add the consideration that part of Alex enjoys hurting Keller. I believe that Loki will save Keller. I dont think theres a definitive answer. She brings him to a hole underneath a car, forcing him in, shooting him in the leg and leaving him there. While SCDC strives to ensure accuracy of this information, it makes no guarantees as to the reliability of the data. So are such small things as duct tape over someones mouth. Who was he waiting for? Cant wait to show this movie (and analysis) to my wife! It is mentioned, in the scene discussing the FBI agents book in Taylors house, that Taylor was abducted as a child but escaped after three weeks. Education: B.A. 100 Belmont-Mt. I think this movie is getting a second life on Netflix, and I just watched it. Its full of images relating to Christian iconography and references. At their first encounter, in the parking lot of the police station, Alex toys with Keller, much like he did the dog, by saying, They didnt cry until I left them. He knew what he was doing. All as a best imitation of his abductors. Welcome to the colossal explanation of Prisoners. But also the idea of the maze itself and of trauma, this infinite thing. 127 South Second Street 919-989-5040 . Join Facebook to connect with Holly Jones and others you may know. Hes thematically relevant to Prisoners but not crucial to what happens and how it happens. Maybe all of this is in reference to him being the best detective they have and always is able to close the case. Its Hollys husband, and hes wearing the same maze necklace as the mysterious body from the basement. We only learn that the items have been bought. It was a nightmare for the west-end community where Holly had lived and played and gone to school for the whole city, and the whole country. Does Loki discover Keller in the hole or not? I was so impatient with all the people not talking, but it makes sense now, the priest, bound by his guilt and confession rules, Alex, most likely having been drugged from an early age on which alters your brain and personality, and God knows what else these people did to him and Bob. Holly Jones - Community Partnership & Outreach Coordinator - LinkedIn Its a silly, basic example but the opening of The Lion King is the rising sun. I have made a discovery of hidden symbols in movies. Thanks Chris for your work here! Prisoners | Film Vault Wiki | Fandom And then refuses to reveal anything to Keller, despite the constant torture, despite Kellers utter desperation and desolation. The body is beyond recognition, but there is a necklace of a maze. I get thinking Alex not talking is weird/problematic. He seemed very alive at the rescue, yelling for help. Eloquently posited Jeff, this certainly fits into the message and subsequent explanation for me. I wanted to just add one thing! I think he points to the husband of Holly. Others will be so invested in the first watching that this goes right over their headwhich is intentional on the movies part. And now he kind of re-creates this moment. Holly Marie is alive and well and living in Oklahoma, after a family adopted her as a baby. One of these underground people tells a shocked family, Were Americans. After that information, the title, Us, can be read as US, or U.S., or United States. Joy and Anna attempt to escape, but only Joy is successful. Why didnt the priest report him to the authorities at the time? Wasnt that newspaper article about Mr Dover Snr committing suicide? Remember that Keller had just shown up there too. People are complicated. One question that bugs me if Alex took the 2 girls in the RV, how comes the forensic team didnt find any trace of them? Holly Deane-Johns, 51, was subjected to the awful living conditions while serving time at Lardyao Women's Correctional Institution. Mac Jones' Family: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com Keller will take matters into his own hands too! admin on volusia county school schedule; holly jones prisoners. When you realize one of the names has a deeper meaning, it leads to the question: Do the rest of the names have meaning? This brings us back to Grace and Loki and Dover and Birch, etc. As it starts to get into the idea of how properly is he executing his faith? Loki saw Anna wearing the whistle at the hospital so he asked Grace if she found it, but Grace told him that Anna kept insisting that Joy helped her finding the whistle before they were kidnapped but Grace thought she was just confused so she bought her a new one. Prisoners puts that concept onto how people struggle to work through and escape from their traumas. about what happened to these girls and you DONT TELL US, YOUR AUNT WILL GO TO JAIL too. Thats why Keller being a carpenter, just like Jesus was, cant be a coincidence, I think. Mike Tyson made a boxing return in 2020 when he fought fellow Hall of Famer Roy Jones Jr Credit: EPA. Theres an FBI book about a serial abductor who was obsessed with mazes. Wow, I suppose Im late to the party because I only just watched it on Netflix. Just one question: how come the parents recognised their daughters clothes at the police station but didnt realise that they were not the ones the girls wore when they disappeared? Hey Mary! It just points at a larger abandonment issue Alex has. Since her son's death, she has become a cold, deeply disturbed and depraved human being, wanting nothing but for others to feel her pain. Alex is taken into custody, but is quickly released due to his IQ being the same as a ten year old. What didnt make sense to me was that the parents didnt seem to remember what the girls were wearing at the time of the abduction. The only thing I can think of is 1.) But his job is not straightforward as Keller, Anna's father is restless in the pursuit of his daughter and kickstarts his own investigation into her disappearance. How do we have faith when bad things happen? The two kidnapped girls. He had no criminal record, not even a parking ticket to his name. The Central Mississippi Correctional Facility (CMCF) was established in 1986 and built on 171 acres in Pearl in Rankin County. This can be the complicated nature of someone who has been hurt as substantially as Alex has been hurt. I noticed this strange bit of dialogue from Loki: You know IF YOU KNOW something But the more you dig into Prisoners it eventually becomes clear as day that the entire movie is this layered exploration of various types of prisons: physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual. Yell from a distance to freeze: So you can say you said it. I thought it was. Hopefully youre thinking, Thats an in-road!. Toronto (AP)-On Friday, June 20th Toronto Police arrested Michael Briere, a 35 year old software developer, for the horrific murder of 10 year old Holly Jones. That kind of goes with the idea of an intricate maze, a labyrinth, where you get lost and wonder, and keep returning to the same spot, looping around and around, as you try and find an escape. When someone goes missing the police investigators always try to establish very carefully how the missing person was dressed! Its pretty well-known that the victims of abuse are prone to abusing others. And seems to have no one to talk to about what happened. Theres Amy Adamss character going about her life in the present day. Keller Dover wiederum fhrt zu Holly Jones, da er den Verdacht hat, dass Joy dort seine Stimme gehrt haben knnte. Which could explain why there are no fingerprints in the van. Its always really nice to have that experience where you grow into appreciating a movie. But its also a clue from the filmmaker to treat the movie as a maze. Rest In Peace Holly. But he is stuck in that child-like mentality and he did know what was going to happen to those kids, like he did with so many others. (But is also comes from the old Scandinavian meaning a ravine, gap, gorge, or a crevasse between cliffs. The French, Celtics, and Gauls all had similar versions of the word (Douvres, Dubrs, and Dubris, respectively) and all meant water as well. Were really only within 24 hours of all the information coming out. 2.) And yeah, that is devastating. 101 Market Street 252-448-7091 ext 222 . Or that hell never make a mistake. There was a for sale sign on it so Loki looked it up in case the owners knew anything and found a newspaper clipping that a little boy that used to live there had been kidnapped. When we were shooting, we did shoot a version where it goes a little beyond where the fade out is. By that, I mean Alex has headed towards introversion. The pretentious stuff gets at the construction of the story. But if the kid WAS named Alex, I think Barry/Alex is saying that when he was a kid, the Joneses lured him to their house by asking if Barry wanted to play with their son. Hundreds of Oklahoma inmates released in the largest commutation - CNN Dover in his belief Alex Jones knows where the girls are. Is it the content of the game? How do you know the Birchs house is Alexs old house? Holly Deane-Jones reveals her stint in Thailand's famed "Bangkok Hilton Martin Luther No text message will ever replace the first kiss. Anyway thanks for the insight. Everything is action, action, action. Bob Taylor didnt have the opportunity. Hi. The s**cide of Dover Sr definitely is the reason why Keller doesnt want to renovate his childhood home and adds another layer to that house where Alex is eventually imprisoned. Duct tape: I think were supposed to accept it lol. The main villain is in a war against the Christian God, while the hero is named after a god of Norse mythology. When I think of mazes, I think of complications. Prisoners ist ein US-amerikanischer Spielfilm aus dem Jahr 2013 unter der Regie von Denis Villeneuve. But then midway through the movie, Keller Dover kidnaps Alex Jones and keeps Alex prisoner. Now these parents have a son that kidnaps/molests/drugs/kills little kids. It would add some nuance to Dovers backstory. Yeah, I like the mixture of Christian and Norse. And what if he does! Political party: Democrat. Jones, as a last name, means son of John. And John, as a name, means God is gracious. The irony here is that Hollys child died. It comes from that which is inside of all is. This technique is more common in artsy projects than it is mainstream ones. She reveals that she heard Keller while she was held captive. To the point where they said the center of the entire universe was a gigantic tree named Yggdrasil. So yea great movie that kind of blew the ending which I mean it doesnt mean much and maybe it isnt meant to be definitive. I have kids and if they were ever kidnapped I would pick them being killed than for them to do what Alex did. Toronto Holly Jones Murder Update 2022: Where Is Murderer Michael Because of that, Kendricks life turned out 1,000% different than it would have had he grown up without a dad. Prisoners could have presented information in the way most movies dostacking details in a chronological, linear fashion thats digestible and allows viewers to go from a place of total ignorance to a place of complete understanding. But Loki soon arrives at the scene and catches Holly before she can kill Anna. If you want to get the full picture of the story, you have to unite the fragments. ), assistant property master (as Beth Morris), art department production assistant (as Steven 'Denver' Tolbert), art graphics (uncredited) / storyboard artist (uncredited), storyboard artist (uncredited) / visual consultant (uncredited), additional re-recording mixer (as Matthew Ladarola), additional production sound mixer (uncredited), adr recording engineer (uncredited) / adr recordist (uncredited), special effects technician (as Edward S. Backus), special effects technician (as Nick Coleman), special effects technician (as Michael Dzenowagis), special effects foreman (as Jeffrey D. 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Watson), additional production assistant (uncredited), special consultant: end credits (uncredited), set production assistant: second unit (uncredited), completion bond representative (uncredited), forensic technical consultant (uncredited), basecamp production assistant: second unit (uncredited) / production assistant (uncredited), global director of motion picture logistics: Altour Travel (uncredited), production assistant: drone unit (uncredited), additional set production assistant (uncredited), production finance controller (uncredited). No story in-roads are necessary because the editing/plot sequencing makes obvious the parallels between the book and the relationship. Because thats exactly what these names are. The next thing I remember is the detectives discussing giving Holly notice about Alex. This item: Captives of Liberty: Prisoners of War and the Politics of Vengeance in the American Revolution (Early American Studies) by T. Cole Jones Hardcover $33.69 Running from Bondage: Enslaved Women and Their Remarkable Fight for Freedom in Revolutionary America by Karen Cook Bell Hardcover $15.80 Review How could Keller have been there too? Possible, but as a main oremise it seems a bit thin. Theres tension as Loki hears the whistle but dismisses it, hears it again, but dismisses it again, before hearing it another time. After the shocking events of The Stolen Heir, Prince Oak is in deeper trouble than ever before. And others will have a more cynical outlook that hes become who hes become and is kind of terrifying. Alabama woman sentenced to nearly 100 years on sodomy and bestiality I guess the priest didnt report because it was a confession and he felt unable to tell authorities about it? to Keller Junior is that killing is okay because the animal population needs to be maintained. 'Prisoners' is an engrossing crime thriller directed by Denis Villeneuve. Mississippi Department of Corrections - MS My guess is he's been blowing the whistle for days without anybody being able to hear him during the excavation. I love it that youre so active in the comments and engaging with readers, it encourages me (and hopefully other readers) to revisit movies with new perspectives in mind and discuss further. Thus, we know how long he was there. He was the 28-year-old from Woodstock charged with Tori Stafford's abduction, rape and murder. So his full name only reinforces the combination of religions. Hundreds of Oklahoma inmates left prison Monday before their original sentences were over. I actually know the answer to this! But I think most of what you said in Prisoners is within the realm of acceptable. It serves a meta-purpose to make us aware of how to watch/understand the movie. Constantly updated. When Loki brings Taylor in, Taylor cant just explain what happened and why. Which creates that idea of the loop. Prisoners (2013) - Full Cast & Crew - IMDb Keller had been at the house. Hi Chris,what a great review. I thought that the casting and acting were the weakest part of the film. You want that for her? Mark Bridger, the former abattoir worker jailed for the sexually motivated murder of five-year-old April Jones, has been attacked in prison. There are two more layers that make Prisoners an even deeper kind of cinematic dive. And was the name given by the Romans to Dover, England, according to DoverHistorian.com. Perhaps another theme of the movie is communication. Got it (which is why Keller finds it in the hole at the end). Thats a great question! Bob somehow escaped, but the memories kept him from telling the police. The lights in the derelict apartment apparently dont work but plug-in job lights do, OK. Why does no one ever check a door handle before breaking it down or crawling through a window? Holly Jones disappeared from her west-end Toronto neighbourhood in 2003, raped and murdered by Michael Briere. You did an amazing job! Replace the fridge with the old car. As well as confusion about who they really whereid also venture to guess that abuse was also a big part of the experience as you also mentionedso a confused prison of the mind. Texas Department of Criminal Justice | PO Box 99 | Huntsville, Texas 77342-0099 | (936) 295-6371 I just finished watching the movie and was looking for an explanation, and this is just amazing, thank you for your analysis and thanks for all the comments, what an incredible movie. . Powers / Skills Doesnt know what happened to him. Texas Department of Criminal Justice Emotional imprisonment: the disappearance of Anna and Joy emotionally devastates the Dover and Birch families. Why does a seasoned police officer with no unsolved cases stare at a suspect to the point of spooking him, or sit in a roadway blocking traffic until he draws attention himself? When Lokis at the priests house, he sees the mark on the floor where the refrigerator gets moved in order to access the secret door to the hidden basement. Ephemeral, spiritual things that operate on a metaphysical level. 9 talking about this. On Friday, Briere was charged with abducting, murdering and dismembering 10-year-old Holly Jones (shown), some of whose body parts were found May 13 in two pieces of luggage in water in two . Thanks. And bipartisan lawmakers couldn't be happier. and if so, I guess its just coincidence that Hollys husband had a maze around his neck and that they left mazes in the locked room? Holly offers Keller tea, which would probably be drugged (we later see she kept a jar of drugged liquid in the fridge). Armed with a hidden gun, Keller heads to see Holly, but she soon learns he knows she kidnapped the girls and prepares her own revolver, which she aims at him upon arrival without hesitation once he voices he knows the truth. Killers Levi Bellfield and Ian Huntley let out of cells and treated to Pearl, MS 39208. Hey Craig! Is the father a sex offender himself? And they are linked with this idea of necessary violence.. Whether thats the death of a child, the loss of faith in God, discovering a parent who has committed suicide, murdering a murderer, having your child abducted, torturing someone you know is guilty but wont confess, or a high-stakes job where lives are on the line. Or will Keller die in the hole Holly Jones had left him in? I almost enjoyed this analysis more than the movie. Kill Loki and any other interfering witnesses (failed). Look Up An Inmate Jones County NC Jail. Does Loki represent a spirituality beyond Christianity? Holly preceded to do crazy Holly things. But 5 years ago, he was missing. Instead, it leaves a few context clues there for us to piece things together. Its a huge part of the religionlikea cornerstone of Christian theology. No one ever says out loud, THAT WAS HER HUSBAND! They could have. The filmmaking is great. Also isnt the name Keller, too close to killer? There are characters named Grace and Joy. I think of it as a cry for help by the way he looked at the officer behind the desk. Theres something being said in this collision between civilization and nature, Christianity and the Old Gods.. Find latests mugshots and bookings from Abilene and other local cities. I loved the movie and really appreciate you breaking it down like that. Just some observations. I thought that was a major clue about the protagonist Keller Dover but at the end of the movie it seems to be a complete coincidence. It made me wonder if he also was carrying around some past trauma. If someone would have put 2 and 2 together they could have solved it way sooner. The breath. If God caused them to loose their faith in this way, they will play God and cause others to loose their faith in this way too. Not sure though) and it came out before Holly and her husband started the abductions. Glad you liked the movie! Hi Chris The story is great. The fastest growing independent movie & tv news website! Yo Zach! We (and Keller) struggle to understand whats going through Alexs mind. Some people will choose the hopeful outlook that being away from Holly means he has a chance at a decent future. And this guy being a carpenter, someone who turns living trees into objects. Michael Briere Now: Where is Holly Jones' Killer Today? Update But the only performance I really love is Jakes. But the movie as a whole is an examination of the kinds of prisons people find themselves inphysically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. How do we make sense of the bad that happens in the world? You know, a room thats underground. But not in terms of likeNorse vs Christianity. With all the opportunity to gush to the police about what happenedhe stays silent. And Id imagine Holly would have said something about Bob, just to telegraph it to the viewer, if this was actually what happened. Please direct any questions regarding the information obtained on this site to the DOC . Let me know how the re-watch goes! Holly was once a genuinely loving and caring woman. 26 Jan 2023 14:55:21 Tom Brokaw But, yeah, seems to be one of those suspension of disbelief things that has become implicit to the whole artistic form. Excellent analysis! It happens to be near the Birch house, where the Dovers celebrate Thanksgiving. Yeah, I had the same sense of spirituality. To find an inmate, please enter the name OR the ID number, and then click the SEARCH button. How did he get to Hollys house? 69K views 2 years ago In Pennsylvania, Keller Dover, his wife Grace, son Ralph, and daughter Anna celebrate Thanksgiving with their friends Franklin and Nancy Birch, and their daughters Eliza and. in public-policy analysis, UNC-Chapel Hill; master's of divinity . But, like the title, things arent always so simple. Its a German version of cellar. Meaning basement, store room. How does a top detective let an old woman finish an injection, pick up a gun, stand up, turn around and get shots off instead of just taking her down when she has her back to him? She had been jailed for trying to post 10.4g of heroin back to . This is such a fantastic analysis. Holly and her husband based their abductions off of the book. In-roads. Holly could have been in the van. I thoroughly enjoyed it and now need to watch this movie again. Regarding the above comments, I recall the detectives discussing the results of forensics on the body in the priests hole. Thanks, Justin! Your basically kidnapping/torturing someone who is going to kill your daughter if they are released. Who knows! With the motifs in mind, we can finally get to what I think is the most interesting thing about Prisoners. Alex says In the maze, and Bob simply draws it. Before you trash this post, and think Im a nut case, please view the first 5 minuets of my video. I think the film supports it by not having Bob Taylor or the girls talk either. And Loki was the catalyst in Taylor committing suicide. Many times throughout the film, theres an emphasis on forests and trees. Accepting not just the bad but the good as well. Duration: 10m 29s. It is the key that ties the entire movie together. Each scene you can feel their presence. Facebook gives people the power to. So you could try and argue that it just means the girls didnt struggle. Right now, still leaning to it being Hollys deceased kid. The rest are just kind ofdoing their part? Holly Jones How David is very Christian/Jewish/Biblical while Loki is very Norse. This means the Dovers and Birches have to place their faith ina character named after a Norse God. Lokis neck is a badgeso along with your hypothesishis god is justice/prison. Or Barry. Lights: Buildings usually have power broken into sections. holly jones | Flickr Unbeknownst to him, Joy and Anna are in another room and Joy sees him/hears him.

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